NDAA 2012

If Obama signs it, what does it mean?


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-- Massachusetts Abolitionist, Lysander Spooner

"The Act legislatively codifies the President's authority to indefinitely detain terrorism suspects, including American citizens, without trial."

Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
If Obama signs it, what does it mean?

it means that you have no rights. Don't worry though it's not like Obama has lied before
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both sides are for this, not just an obama problem

Originally posted by: mx+b
both sides are for this, not just an obama problem

Except for 6 years the liberals cried about the patriot act. This not only worse it shows yet again the hypocrisy from the left

Nathan better watch out. Any talk about revolution could land you in a place no one finds you again. A man did the same thing long ago with the name Adolf.
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
Nathan better watch out.

Goddamn right. That's why I made this thread. I don't like Bush, I don't like Obama. I own guns. I bring up constitutional arguments against the system. Based on all of that, to the status quo, I'm a prime suspect to be a terrorist. This NDAA shit is very scary.

Post edited by Nathan Bedford Forrest at 12/15/2011 10:18:25 PM

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"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals."
-- Massachusetts Abolitionist, Lysander Spooner

Shit.

As someone who leans slightly in favor of the PATRIOT Act because of the current circumstances, I think this is fucking crazy and a blatant attack on liberty.

Originally posted by: burn!
Shit.

As someone who leans slightly in favor of the PATRIOT Act because of the current circumstances, I think this is fucking crazy and a blatant attack on liberty.

Agreed

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
If Obama signs it, what does it mean?

it means that you have no rights. Don't worry though it's not like Obama has lied before

"If you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear"
-Bush/Cheney Doctrine

Originally posted by: Yeltzer

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
If Obama signs it, what does it mean?

it means that you have no rights. Don't worry though it's not like Obama has lied before

"If you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear"
-Bush/Cheney Doctrine

So Aria would you say this is the same as the Patriot act? Have you read both? Trying to bring Bush into something that Obama Authorized is sorta funny


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"You get more with kind words and a gun than you do with just kind words"

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"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals."
-- Massachusetts Abolitionist, Lysander Spooner

Originally posted by: Yeltzer
"If you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear"
-Bush/Cheney Doctrine

#1, if youre going to use the term "bush doctrine", get it right. krauthammer defined it, and that is not it.

#2, that statement depends on the definition of wrong, which to this president would roughly translate to anything in opposition of his policies.
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Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA FUCKED UP AGAIN? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by: mx+b
both sides are for this, not just an obama problem

George W. Obama

Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major

Originally posted by: mx+b
both sides are for this, not just an obama problem

George W. Obama

So when anything happened under bush it was simply his fault but when stuff happens under Obama is everyone's fault? Seem a few folks changed the rules
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