Tentative Maplist:

R1: Any except Vantage Point
R2: Any except Vantage Point
R3: Any except Vantage Point
R4: Any except Vantage Point
R5: Any except Vantage Point

-Nebulous-

ScrubTeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-05 01:48

temple is about the same lol. linear linear linear!!

battlefield should NEVER be linear single line maps. EVER.

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-05 10:20

The problem with vantage point is that the first fight wins the round
At least with temple you have more room to approach the middle flag

For those that dont have the game its a linear 3 base map
The second base "B" is on top of a mountain that you cannot go around - you must approach on 1 road to the top
I pity the teams that face that camp from the top

Its a foolish design and would be bad for competitive play

I checked the euro event - it was eliminated from the competition

I think we should do the same
Id rather play one of the other maps twice or

SOLUTION
r1 phu bai
r2 cao son temple
r3 hill 137
r4 operation hastings

finals - 3 map final (phu bai,137,hastings - no linear)

The 3 map final worked well in the 8v8 league playoffs
Post edited by rivaL Cartel at 1/5/2011 4:36:16 PM

Shades22

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-05 18:18

Originally posted by: rivaL Cartel
The problem with vantage point is that the first fight wins the round
At least with temple you have more room to approach the middle flag

For those that dont have the game its a linear 3 base map
The second base "B" is on top of a mountain that you cannot go around - you must approach on 1 road to the top
I pity the teams that face that camp from the top

Its a foolish design and would be bad for competitive play

I checked the euro event - it was eliminated from the competition

I think we should do the same
Id rather play one of the other maps twice or

SOLUTION
r1 phu bai
r2 cao son temple
r3 hill 137
r4 operation hastings

finals - 3 map final (phu bai,137,hastings - no linear)

The 3 map final worked well in the 8v8 league playoffs

This

rivaL Vic

TWL Member

2011-01-05 20:16

Cartel wins

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-06 00:42

I could see removing Vantage Point and doing a three map final, thats possible.

Need some more input on the ticket count or it will be the default.

KingRo

TWL Member

2011-01-07 17:08

150 ticket count, also vantage is a great map like temple line them up. Death fest trying to get b is lame but fun. Its a much faster pace then vally or hasting.

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-07 18:01

Originally posted by: KingRo
150 ticket count, also vantage is a great map like temple line them up. Death fest trying to get b is lame but fun. Its a much faster pace then vally or hasting.

...

You cant possibly think thats a good map for competition

-Nebulous-

ScrubTeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-07 19:59

non BF players like linear maps cuz they dont have to think. ie - cs, halo, cod...

chad`

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-07 23:21

Hastings is a shit map for finals. Flag tag is all it will be.

Shades22

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-08 01:47

Originally posted by: -Nebulous-
non BF players like linear maps cuz they dont have to think. ie - cs, halo, cod...

I hated the linear maps in BC2.

White Pass strat: Run in a straight line, revive, revive, shoot, revive. Continue running in a straight line.

I liked Panama and the two Lagunas, though. You had to actually think a little.

-Nebulous-

ScrubTeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-08 03:07

exactly. i cant understand WHY they used such linear maps. My guess is they needed a "template" for rush game modes.. so they used the linear build so they could just move the conquest maps over to rush with no real thought.. unfortunately.. it screwed over the conquest players.

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-08 11:07

console players dont like to get backraged - it confuses them

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-09 22:14

allen? - any ruling/vote or offical maplist ?

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-09 22:54

Stick with this for now, Vantage Point is a month out, but it will likely be changed.

hydro'

TWL Member

2011-01-10 07:53

Forget 200 tickets, 150 tickets is better.

Nsyil

TWL Member

2011-01-10 16:33

200 tickets is perfect

My only suggestion in regards to maps is to announce it sooner rather than later. There is nothing more annoying than to be two or three rounds into a tournament and then the rules get changed.

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-10 16:41

Originally posted by: Nsyil
200 tickets is perfect

My only suggestion in regards to maps is to announce it sooner rather than later. There is nothing more annoying than to be two or three rounds into a tournament and then the rules get changed.

The rules won't be changed.

The maplist likely will. We would like to hear a little more input on the ticket count after tonight's matches though. Final decision on maps and ticket counts will be posted tomorrow after this round.

Nsyil

TWL Member

2011-01-10 17:23

Originally posted by: Allen
Originally posted by: Nsyil
200 tickets is perfect

My only suggestion in regards to maps is to announce it sooner rather than later. There is nothing more annoying than to be two or three rounds into a tournament and then the rules get changed.

The rules won't be changed.

The maplist likely will. We would like to hear a little more input on the ticket count after tonight's matches though. Final decision on maps and ticket counts will be posted tomorrow after this round.

Sounds Great, thank you Allen!

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-12 13:40

200 Tickets.

R2 - Cao Son Temple
R3 - Hill 137
R4 - Hastings

Finals - Hastings, 137, Phu Bai (one round on each map, sides will be random). Win 2 rounds/maps to win the tournament.
Post edited by Allen at 1/12/2011 1:41:49 PM

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-12 16:34

Originally posted by: Allen
(one round on each map, sides will be random).quote]

Im not a big fan of this - there are some maps/sides which are unbalanced in this game (ie. gets to middle flag first)

id rather just play out each map 2 rounds+tiebreaker if needed

It may take longer but itll give a better picture of the better team

A team could get screwed by a "random" side on a map
It would suck to have a finals match influenced by that

chad`

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-12 17:53

What about each team picking a map for finals in a bo3 and TWL admins pick the tie breaker if needed?

Shades22

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-12 18:22

Originally posted by: chad`
What about each team picking a map for finals in a bo3 and TWL admins pick the tie breaker if needed?

Listen when this man speaks

rivaL Vic

TWL Member

2011-01-12 23:25

Originally posted by: Shades22
Originally posted by: chad`
What about each team picking a map for finals in a bo3 and TWL admins pick the tie breaker if needed?

Listen when this man speaks

There's really only 3 maps you'd want to play in the finals anyways...

2Easyy

TWL Member

2011-01-13 06:23

Hastings is a joke.

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-13 11:34

Yah I had a feeling it would be - a little too big
But at least it has options rather than run to B fight - rinse repeat

Sadly there isnt really any other maps
Temple is unbalanced badly (one side gets to B way faster)
And linear crap

They need 1 more decent map

rivaL Vic

TWL Member

2011-01-13 14:49

Definitely can't leave it at one round per map... If we pick maps.. it'd be phu bai.. hill 137.. and then hasting will be the tie breaker.

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-13 21:59

Three rounds on each then, same as any other match, just potentially 3x longer?

Shades22

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-13 22:43

Originally posted by: Allen
Three rounds on each then, same as any other match, just potentially 3x longer?

I think it went

2 round 1st map
2 rounds 2nd map
2 rounds tiebreaker (if needed)

Allen

TeamWarfare VetRetired Admin

2011-01-13 22:44

So it'd come down to total tickets from the six round total, or score it per map based on the ticket totals?
Post edited by Allen at 1/13/2011 10:44:52 PM

Shades22

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-13 23:18

Originally posted by: Allen
So it'd come down to total tickets from the six round total, or score it per map based on the ticket totals?

Haha, I can't remember. Guess I haven't played in a finals match in awhile.

rivaL Cartel

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-01-13 23:21

Its a 3 match final

You play each map like a match (2 rounds + tiebreaker if needed)

Each map win counts as a point

first to 2 points wins (best of three)

Its a long match but it gives you a true winner - not just a team thats good on the chosen finals map or gets lucky side choices on seperate maps

We have done it for a few finals - it works well
Post edited by rivaL Cartel at 1/13/2011 11:23:23 PM

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