RPG M-com stations

Is it me or is this the most lame technique people can use to try and destroy mcom stations in 8v8. This requires little to no skill and any average joe can destroy a few stations like this in a match. A team of 6-8 engineers WILL get some points if this is their only strategy to play a match. Its a dirty way to play and its poor sportsman ship if you rely on this. Not to mention, when you have 75-100 tickets to capture a station you have way to many resources to stop a team of engineers on certain bases.

/discuss

Why are you making a post about this? There has already been about 25 of the same thing your whining about. No one cares. Why dont you play conquest instead of that shitty rush?

I think they changed the rules and made this illegal.

There are 6-8 MCOMs on 8v8 Team RUSH.

There are NO safe spawns to shoot rockets from.

Both teams get Armour and or helicopters to defend MCOMS on some maps.

If you are having issues with teams shooting your MCOM in 8V8 FULL TEAM RUSH (not Squad RUSH) then its because your defense is sub par.

You can't just sit around at your MCOM's and wait for the enemy to come to you. If they can they are going to shoot your MCOM's from range. However you have the option to PUSH up and get in there faces, you have no tickets to worry about. It's your lack of direct pressure that's allowing them to sit back and shoot at your MCOMS from range.

Squad RUSH is different. They have out of bounds bases. There's no way for the defenders to push up.

Please think about tactics next time before coming here and whining about something that can easily be countered.

I see your squad has played exactly ONE game of 8v8 RUSH and rather than talk about counter tactics with your team you come here and complain.

No more free advice, learn to counter.

I am with XShades... I know points on Squad Rush that RPGs can pretty much dominate an MCOM from with no retaliation from defenders.

However, on rush, if your bases are getting RPG'd then your defense is what needs to be looked at.

lol, i didnt make this post to whine, or complain. I was simply putting in my two cents. And i know how to counter the tactics, hence why we won our first match. So instead of being rude and/or disrespectful with a reply, just dont reply next time. I just wanted to see what everyone opinions of this tactic were.

Warm and friendly in here eh... Where is the love.. Love shack. I think we were not expecting such a sad way to try and win that's all. You wont typically be seeing Bad Ass Wankers using those types of sub-par strats. Play right or don't play at all?

XShades...

Try staying on topic rather then assuming what we are NOT doing, most of which was not even mentioned in the OP post.

You do know what the first 3 letters of ASSuming are.. which is what you look like when you do it.

We adapted to the situations that were presented to us. Organics was not whining about a strat we could not stop, but voicing an opinion on a strat that he feels is cheap.

i guess KoF couldn't figure out how to make the anti-tank mines work, so they stayed with the rpg's and uav. they did this shitty tactic to us so when it was our turn to attack we did the homo AT mine thing to give them some of their own medicine. this also seems to be their only strat. it is poor sportsman ship but just make sure u have a shitty strat to use on people like this.

Well we figured we wouldnt snoop that low, so we actually planted all the stations but the first two on Arica Harbor. So no biggie.

"most lame technique" < This is whining.

"requires little to no skill" Whining.

"dirty way to play" More whining.

"when you have 75-100 tickets to capture a station you have way to many resources to stop a team of engineers" Lack of understanding of how to counter engineers.

All in all I'd say my post was spot on. but eh keep it coming this is amusing.

Jesus Xshade change your tampon I think you have toxic shock syndrome

Originally posted by: Organics
lol, i didnt make this post to whine, or complain.

Is it me or is this the most lame technique people can use to try and destroy mcom stations in 8v8.


Post edited by Kyle.. at 8/30/2010 10:11:30 AM

Originally posted by: XShades
There are 6-8 MCOMs on 8v8 Team RUSH.

If you are having issues with teams shooting your MCOM in 8V8 FULL TEAM RUSH (not Squad RUSH) then its because your defense is sub par.

Assumption... No where did we say we had issues not being able to defend..

Originally posted by: XShades
You can't just sit around at your MCOM's and wait for the enemy to come to you. If they can they are going to shoot your MCOM's from range. However you have the option to PUSH up and get in there faces, you have no tickets to worry about. It's your lack of direct pressure that's allowing them to sit back and shoot at your MCOMS from range.

Assumption.. No where did we say we sat in our base waiting on them..

Originally posted by: XShades
I see your squad has played exactly ONE game of 8v8 RUSH and rather than talk about counter tactics with your team you come here and complain.

Assumption.. No where did we say we came here to whine without talking to the team about counter tactics..


90% of your post was Assumptions, far from spot on, and basically being a dick.. So ya.. keep it coming.. this IS fun..
With so many ASSumptions you can not help but look like an ass.. well done.

Post edited by TapeWorm-Marine at 8/30/2010 10:26:54 PM

Bad Ass Wankers are you saying your a bad ass that wanks it to much?

TapeWorm-Marine,

I don't get it? He came here to whine about something you don't care about?

Admin might as well delete the thread

Originally posted by: white76
Bad Ass Wankers are you saying your a bad ass that wanks it to much?

Perhaps

Originally posted by: XShades
TapeWorm-Marine,

I don't get it? He came here to whine about something you don't care about?

Admin might as well delete the thread

No I believe Organics post was more along the lines of getting a feel for how the community views this type of tactic while expressing his own view.

If you where not so obsessed with jumping on the "OMG WHINE WAGON" to flex your Epeen, you probably would have seen this.

What you call whining others call an observation or opinion. Since there was no "OMG this strat is OP we could not beat it" since we did in fact beat it.. I do not see where you get Whine from.

Example:
Based on your posts in this threat, I observe that you enjoy being a dick-head. It does not bother me, http://NOT.MAD.BRO, but a simple observation. This is no different then saying, Such and Such tactic is lame. No one is crying, just an observation.

"Is it me or is this the most lame technique people can use to try and destroy mcom stations in 8v8. This requires little to no skill and any average joe can destroy a few stations like this in a match."

Nope... I've read this 3 times now and every time it reads the same. He's whining about a tactic he does not like.

Here I'll re-write it for you to show you how it should have been posted if you didn't want it to sound like he was whining.

--Not Whining--

Subject: Rocketing MCOM's in 8v8 RUSH.

In our last game a team resorted to rocketing our MCOM's from a distance. We prefer that MCOM's be armed rather than destroyed, in our opinion it makes for a more challenging game. We have not confirmed it but we believe that a team of 6-8 engineers would make short work of MCOM's given the large ticket pool at there disposal.

Has anyone else had issues with this if so /discuss.

--end--

There you go.

And this would have been my answer.

I do not believe that rocketing MCOM's from a distance is a problem. There are no safe zones for the attacking team and the defenders have unlimited tickets. Pushing into the attacking engineers or sniping them is a great counter that requires no additional rules.

Furthermore If you disallowed rockets you would have to then extend the ban to mortars, TOWs, Helfires, tanks and IFV's. Next would come destroying buildings and before you know it we have an extremely limited set of tactics that would make defending as simple as camping corners with an LMG sitting on a medic pack. (Not a real tactic but you get the idea)


Post edited by XShades at 8/31/2010 12:38:36 PM

In all the 8v8 rush matches I've played in hardcore, I've never seen an entire map been dominated by the constant barrage of RPG/AT4s. Sure, one easily visible MCOM might get destroyed, or an RPG/AT4 might finish off an MCOM on its last legs from C4/Remote Mines/Tanks/etc., but I don't see this as the problem it is on squad rush, where you can't even attack the enemies who are shooting at the MCOM.

Additionally I'd ask you this, Organics.

Since you won your first (and only) match, and the other team apparently used these tactics which you so despise, are you really arguing that this "tactic" (which I've never seen exclusively used) should be banned based on the use of a clan on the bottom of the ladder, who ultimately lost?

I'd ask that you reserve any opinings on the prevalence and effectiveness of a tactic until you get a bit more experience in the ladder.

Originally posted by: XShades
TapeWorm-Marine,

I don't get it? He came here to whine about something you don't care about?

Admin might as well delete the thread

you come here to talk about hardcore of which nobody worth mentioning cares about..

admins should delete you.

had to.. the opening was far too great.
Post edited by -Nebulous- at 8/31/2010 2:11:32 PM

Originally posted by: -Nebulous-
,


you come here to talk about hardcore of which nobody worth mentioning cares about..

You realize that the person who initiated this post is involved only in the hardcore ladder as far as 8x8's go? I know it takes a bit too much research (and reading) to figure that out; I guess I give people too much credit.
Post edited by DaintyFish at 8/31/2010 2:19:18 PM

Originally posted by: DaintyFish

Originally posted by: -Nebulous-
,


you come here to talk about hardcore of which nobody worth mentioning cares about..

You realize that the person who initiated this post is involved only in the hardcore ladder as far as 8x8's go? I know it takes a bit too much research (and reading) to figure that out; I guess I give people too much credit.

He was only talking to XShades. You give yourself to much credit.

dainty, i could care less about the issue of the thread lol. i was just here to bug shades.. way to hook line and sinker that one though.

-Nebulous-

Bored of playing PaddleFoo in your medic ladder Nebulous? By all means feel free to join a conversation about 8v8 RUSH. Have you ever played it?

PS. Good luck with restricting classes in 4x4SR. Probably the best thing that could happen to that ladder bar Dice removing the spawn protection.
Post edited by XShades at 8/31/2010 3:55:05 PM

Originally posted by: XShades
-Nebulous-

Bored of playing PaddleFoo in your medic ladder Nebulous? By all means feel free to join a conversation about 8v8 RUSH. Have you ever played it?

PS. Good luck with restricting classes in 4x4SR. Probably the best thing that could happen to that ladder bar Dice removing the spawn protection.

Post edited by Dark Ace at 8/31/2010 4:49:53 PM

we all know you couldn't hang in any ladder that isnt hardcore shades.. you need the ability to kill someone via their big toe cuz having your xhairs on someone for more than 2 seconds due to strafing is just too difficult

whats the reason you quit conquest again? wka pummeled that booty a wee bit too hard?

aiight im done lol

enjoy your thread fellas!

We like HC RUSH because its not just "k guys get on the point and rez train til they die gogogo..."


Post edited by XShades at 8/31/2010 6:50:29 PM

Originally posted by: XShades
We like HC RUSH because its not just "k guys get on the point and rez train til they die gogogo..."

Is this implying that if the rez train was not possible in vanilla BC2, that you would succeed?

No more trolling is needed.
Post edited by Allen at 9/1/2010 1:43:26 AM

Get this headed back in some useful direction or it will be locked and those who deserve it, banned.

Originally posted by: XShades
Furthermore If you disallowed rockets you would have to then extend the ban to mortars, TOWs, Helfires, tanks and IFV's.

Mortars don't damage M-Coms so there would be no need to ban those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHdL_hckIPE
Post edited by Judedeath at 9/1/2010 3:46:06 AM

Originally posted by: XShades
We like HC RUSH because its not just "k guys get on the point and rez train til they die gogogo..."

Does anyone else find this to be whining?

Is XShades making post after post about someone whining and then someone calls him out on being an HC noob and he goes straight to Whine-Town?

I'm sorry admins... but this is too funny.

XShades... the TWL BC2 forums toolbox and community joke... is whining about people whining and then whines himself.

lol... this is funny.

Admin might as well lock this thread it wasn't going anywhere from the start.

For anyone that's interested this: "k guys get on the point and rez train til they die gogogo..."

Is quoted from -Nebulous- in the thread below. Oh the Irony

http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=677&perpage=20&threadid=461933&page=2

-Nebulous- derailed the thread with this off topic flame.

you come here to talk about hardcore of which nobody worth mentioning cares about..
admins should delete you.
had to.. the opening was far too great.

Before that the thread was on topic.

Just ban shades from the forums and half the derails will go away.

True story.

Originally posted by: Dark Ace

Your doing it wrong.

So many flamers in a thread about 8v8 RUSH tactics?

-Nebulous- Just flamed away completely off topic and with personal attacks for good measure.

Them comes a bunch of weak flame's, image posts all off topic and pointless.

The thread is dead. Should have been locked ages ago.

-On Topic-

Just in case anyone is wondering about the OP subject I believe the consensus is that ranged attack of MCOM's in 8v8 Rush is OK and not really a problem.

::yawn::

Originally posted by: XShades
So many flamers in a thread about 8v8 RUSH tactics?

-Nebulous- Just flamed away completely off topic and with personal attacks for good measure.

Them comes a bunch of weak flame's, image posts all off topic and pointless.

The thread is dead. Should have been locked ages ago.

-On Topic-

Just in case anyone is wondering about the OP subject I believe the consensus is that ranged attack of MCOM's in 8v8 Rush is OK and not really a problem.

I believe that we where expecting a bit more of an "in your face" competitive style of play. Where the match would have some push and give. Although it was our first match as has been pointed out, we hope that subsequent matches will be more fun and competitive.

I think the biggest issue was disappointment, which is no one here's fault. Yet there are plenty of teams we have yet to play so see you guys soon and hope to have a great time.

Nice to be noticed!