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Why was Hexy banned?
What were the justifications in banning him?
Within those obvious justifications, where is the hard evidence supporting this justification or rather theory that then lead to his ban?

If in fact Mistcane turns out to be peterbilt, why is Hexy being punished for picking him? Wasn't Mistcane/peterbilt one of the last picked people in the secondary draft? Wasn't he originally playing on DQ as lipikas? Where is the proof that shows that Hexy knowingly played Mistcane? Peterbilts account was created after a certain point, apparently, that didn't allow him to have tags like everyone else which is why he was playing on Hexys smurf (that had tags) HM3. If anything, peterbilt was forced by the rules to play on an account that had the team tags - if anything thats following the rules.

Also, where is the proof that peterbilt is actually Mistcane? Last I heard he's some guy that lives in Houston, TX where as Josh lives in KY


So, why was Hexy banned again?
Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/30/2011 5:54:25 AM
umadbreh?
Ya right. Like the admins would actually do that? Its time for celios to be knocked off his lil horse and time for a change of power. All we can do is pray that when the new game comes out we get a better admin that can keep us lil guys in the loop of what think are major issues. Cheating/smurfing are major issues.

I personally have know hexy from 03 or 04 on. Brandons 14 man team when he was a nub. Good guy and solid teammate. Id like to know what happened and how it was handled. For the fairness of hexy and all us lil guys.



G
My cousin Floks/Mystcane(NOT MISTCANE) is about to start playing again. People may think that he's a smurf or something but I've just been working with him in private servers.
Celios continues to rule this TWL ladder like a contrarian 12 year old girl who has yet to get her first period. Hopefully this bitch bleeds out soon before he kills everything that we love about this wonderful game of shield packs and space vessels.
Odio 4 Admin 2012!
Wait a sec..... Celios is the good guy... Hexy is the bad guy.... Am I missing something here????
I thought MTHRFKNHM3 was supposedly mistcane. I thought that account was Tiny101 actually, and HeXy and mistcane were MTHRFKNHM1 and MTHRFKNHM2 respectively. Motherfucking.
Originally posted by: --Gunther--
Ya right. Like the admins would actually do that? Its time for celios to be knocked off his lil horse and time for a change of power.


really now? fuck. cel doesnt always nail it. but the issues tossed his way are often complex, drama soaked, and difficult to get to the bottom of. and invariably bound to piss one party or the other off.

and be careful of what you wish for. would u rather have some random twl admin appointed that doesnt know us or our game and nazi the fuck out of it? not saying that would happen but it could.

celios is a decent dude who spends a lot of his time doing shit for this community and a handful of retards prepetually make his job quite a bit harder than it ought to be. for the record, i like some of those retards but thats not the point here. plus hes a t2 player who understands the game. so jesus christ get off of his nuts. not his fault people constantly think they are clever enuff to circumvent shit and get busted.
Post edited by JT at 8/30/2011 11:04:58 AM
why permaban though is my question, i can see ban for a few weeks or less but a permaban seems kind of harsh. plus seeing there isnt that many people who play anymore...
Originally posted by: BiZzY
why permaban though is my question, i can see ban for a few weeks or less but a permaban seems kind of harsh. plus seeing there isnt that many people who play anymore...




once you're sneaking twl permabanned cheaters into twl matches, you're clearly in the twl permabanned camp.
^

I've seen some people ask:
HM1 - Tiny101
HM2 - Mistcane
HM3 - Hexy

"peterbilt" was obviously a smurf. When people asked who he was his response was "Lol guys I just duelmod k". I hear, as a banned player, it's a good thing to post about using proxies, then get caught using the same one .

There was also some random, fishy shit going on prior to maps starting, like HeXy leaving and re-joining constantly, randomly having tags then not having tags, etc.

I'm not sure why everyone here is so keen on keeping the well poisoned.
idk y this dood permaban as well shit just kills the game take it from me as someone who has seen the decline of tribe 1 into empty servers in the last year due to the bad admin skills of redneck TF Maverick


anyway celios once told me i was a psychopath and neg repped me on tribalwar cuz of the way i post on tw and the way i played #mafia (i am king) but then other times he is nice to me

most ppl who admin twl have some kind of strange power tripping issue they try to deny

at least when i was admin i let every1 kno

#1 i amking
#2 rest are losers i will do what i want 1st warning next u get banned gg
Originally posted by: Darkstrand
Originally posted by: BiZzY
why permaban though is my question, i can see ban for a few weeks or less but a permaban seems kind of harsh. plus seeing there isnt that many people who play anymore...




once you're sneaking twl permabanned cheaters into twl matches, you're clearly in the twl permabanned camp.



Wheres the proof that peterbilt is Mistcane?

There isn't any. It's all hearsay.

Originally posted by: R[a]zz
^

I've seen some people ask:
HM1 - Tiny101
HM2 - Mistcane
HM3 - Hexy

"peterbilt" was obviously a smurf. When people asked who he was his response was "Lol guys I just duelmod k". I hear, as a banned player, it's a good thing to post about using proxies, then get caught using the same one .

There was also some random, fishy shit going on prior to maps starting, like HeXy leaving and re-joining constantly, randomly having tags then not having tags, etc.

I'm not sure why everyone here is so keen on keeping the well poisoned.


1. You can't use a proxy to play Tribes
2. Even if peterbilt is a smurf, wheres the proof that Hexy had knowledge of any of it
3. Wheres the proof that peterbilt is anyone thats banned or even Mistcane (its all guesses/assumptions at this point from what I can tell)
4. Rofl, tags are glitchy, anyone can randomly start their t2 and not have tags. That has nothing to do with cheating, but everything to do with some random glitch that Thyth hasn't fixed.
Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/30/2011 10:07:29 PM
who cares, hexy is shady as fuck and is mistcanes friend, even if it was a totally blind ban there would still be a 90% chance it was legit/worthy

gunnah is next I'm calling it now, the house of cards is coming down
kris312 is right

gunnah cheated death by hurricane

he next


-Hybrid
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: t2hybrid@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp
Originally posted by: Darkstrand
Originally posted by: BiZzY
why permaban though is my question, i can see ban for a few weeks or less but a permaban seems kind of harsh. plus seeing there isnt that many people who play anymore...




once you're sneaking twl permabanned cheaters into twl matches, you're clearly in the twl permabanned camp.
this coming from you is funny i'm sure if hexy sucked as much admin cock you do he would have got a slap on the wrist..considering not long ago you were caught manipulating chat logs.. that should have warrented a ban, but i cannot fathom the idea how it didn't
Originally posted by: Vaxemous
Why was Hexy banned?
What were the justifications in banning him?
Within those obvious justifications, where is the hard evidence supporting this justification or rather theory that then lead to his ban?

If in fact Mistcane turns out to be peterbilt, why is Hexy being punished for picking him? Wasn't Mistcane/peterbilt one of the last picked people in the secondary draft? Wasn't he originally playing on DQ as lipikas? Where is the proof that shows that Hexy knowingly played Mistcane? Peterbilts account was created after a certain point, apparently, that didn't allow him to have tags like everyone else which is why he was playing on Hexys smurf (that had tags) HM3. If anything, peterbilt was forced by the rules to play on an account that had the team tags - if anything thats following the rules.

Also, where is the proof that peterbilt is actually Mistcane? Last I heard he's some guy that lives in Houston, TX where as Josh lives in KY


So, why was Hexy banned again?

Oh please, I haven't read a single reply yet, but if hexy is stupid enough to give peterbilt his smurf account and have him play in the match without thinking it's a smurf he deserves to be banned.

2. Even if peterbilt is a smurf, wheres the proof that Hexy had knowledge of any of it

Yea... the kid who signed up on TWL the day he joined the draft team, who had never played on Goon Haven, and didn't have an account made before the tourney started isn't a smurf... really?

I do think Celios should have been more proactive and just removed all the obvious smurfs before the draft.

Post edited by selfownage at 8/30/2011 11:22:44 PM
if he had none of this would have happened.as it stands now the team with smurfs have an even bigger advantage with hexy gone.
Originally posted by: selfownage

Oh please, I haven't read a single reply yet, but if hexy is stupid enough to give peterbilt his smurf account and have him play in the match without thinking it's a smurf he deserves to be banned.

2. Even if peterbilt is a smurf, wheres the proof that Hexy had knowledge of any of it

Yea... the kid who signed up on TWL the day he joined the draft team, who had never played on Goon Haven, and didn't have an account made before the tourney started isn't a smurf... really?

I do think Celios should have been more proactive and just removed all the obvious smurfs before the draft.



1. If thats how you feel about it, wouldn't it be the same thing to say that if it was obvious that peterbilt was a smurf that he shouldn't have been allowed to play in the tournament from the beginning?

2. ^ Since that wasn't done then how or rather why should Hexy be punished for an admins decision?

3. Everyone that has brans smurf checker probably checked who peterbilt was immediately. Everyone that checked that knew he was from Houston, TX and had no other names that were linked to his IP and still let him play. It's only now that its become a problem, because it turns out that hes actually good and/or you guys (raynes team, btw rayne nice q_q'ing) are just too stupid to know when someone is going to 180 sl you on panda. It could go either way.
Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/31/2011 12:15:23 AM
are you completely misinformed vax or are you trying to spread misinformation?

There is sufficient evidence on all accounts for hexy's permaban. There are plenty of people (from different "factions" e.g. bran, toys) that you could ask for a complete account.
^^^^ Fake Logs
Originally posted by: Wormwood
^^^^ Fake Logs
Originally posted by: Darkstrand
are you completely misinformed vax or are you trying to spread misinformation?

There is sufficient evidence on all accounts for hexy's permaban. There are plenty of people (from different "factions" e.g. bran, toys) that you could ask for a complete account.



Lol what evidence.


From my perspective, it looks like a bunch of people (from different "factions" e.g. bran, toys) got together and said, "Peterbilt is too good, hes a smurf. Hexy is friends with Mistcane, THAT MUST BE HIM!"

I haven't seen any actual hard evidence supporting this theory that peterbilt is Mistcane, nor any hard evidence for the theory that Hexy knew that peterbilt was Mistcane or even a smurf.

If it turns out that there is actual hard evidence (not circumstantial evidence, that any of you have yet to prove) that supports the theory that peterbilt is Mistcane, and that Hexy knew it was Mistcane, then why didn't Hexy pick him up the first time around in the first draft? Why didn't he pick him up sooner in the second draft? He picked peterbilt after clownboat and c5, didn't he?


Wheres the hard evidence?
I haven't seen any. Just a bunch of idiots thinking they know something, when in fact its all hearsay and assumptions.
Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/31/2011 3:54:28 AM
You're just mad your 9/10 team turned out 2/10 in the end
Originally posted by: selfownage
You're just mad your 9/10 team turned out 2/10 in the end


By in the end, do you mean losing a few key players/picks?

Speaking of that, Tarzul apparently offered to lead MLP now that Hexy is gone (from what I've heard)

Laughable. Simply, laughable.
Why are you so emo Vax?
Originally posted by: player01
Why are you so emo Vax?


http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=d-diB65scQU&ob=av3e
Originally posted by: Vaxemous
[...]

To answer your question as succinctly as possible: hexy got mad about the mossy oak situation, said he would smurf mistcane in, then smurfed mistcane in without realizing that mistcane isn't bright enough to use a proxy without fucking it up. Anyways, if you don't believe me, go ask him about the post he made in the forums after I banned him, reveling in the glory that is "hexycane".

Originally posted by: Dareplaytribe
anyway celios once told me i was a psychopath and neg repped me on tribalwar cuz of the way i post on tw and the way i played #mafia (i am king)

You are a liar. That was a +rep.

Originally posted by: selfownage
I do think Celios should have been more proactive and just removed all the obvious smurfs before the draft.

I'm not allowed to ban people without knowing conclusively that they are a smurf, and whose. Besides, it's not a smart road to go down. Case in point, after Sunday's match, a lot of people on Fling's team apparently think HappyPuppy is a smurf of Haut. The evidence? They live in the same state and both are good. Where do you draw the line?

Originally posted by: --Gunther--
Ya right. Like the admins would actually do that?

You're absolutely right: I don't typically post about investigations or bans on the forums. But this is hardly out of apathy; all of that information is written up extensively and posted, just on the admin forums rather than here.

The reason that I rarely post it publicly is pretty simple, which is that nothing good ever comes of it. A lot of what people tell me is shared in confidence, and openly posting stuff like IPs, geographical information, demos and so forth is not always appropriate. This leaves me in a situation where, if I were to start putting things up for trial in the court of public opinion, I would often be faced with one of two scenarios:
1) Offering full disclosure, which screws over anyone who shared something with me in confidence.
2) Offering partial disclosure, which forces me to either omit some of the evidence, or ask you to take my word for it that "evidence of such and such a nature was submitted and judged to be compelling".

In short, informing the public at large of every aspect of an investigation or ban is self-defeating, and giving them an incomplete picture is only convincing if they trust you to begin with.

The only thing I would add to this is that both you and vax know from personal experience that, when people ask me in irc, I do often explain as best I can what is going on with an investigation or a ban. The fact that you two are now posturing on the forums, pretending otherwise, is disingenuous at best.

Originally posted by: --Gunther--
Its time for celios to be knocked off his lil horse and time for a change of power.

I can't remember the last time I've defended myself in public, so perhaps you'll indulge me a little.

Let me start by saying that I have sunken more time over the years into adminning TWL than a lot of people have put into their average job. It would be no exaggeration to say that I have literally spent thousands of hours dealing with the most mundane gruntwork imaginable; I've spent so much time tracing IPs that I could probably tell you offhand where half the community lives; I've put together map packs, coded dozens of tools to help make up for things that are broken or missing on TWL (voting systems, randomizers, draft scripts, tools that let me trace IP ranges to TWL accounts, etc.); I've written numerous boring rulesets, watched more demos than probably half the community put together; and this isn't even getting into the endless drama and complaining I have to patiently wade through on a weekly, if not daily, basis. Do you know how much time I have to spend, on average, explaining and arguing about the slightest cheating accusation, dispute or ban on irc? If I get away with spending no more than 5-10 hours each, then things have been easy. Do you think that is fun?

Now, I don't say this because I expect anyone to start gushing gratitude at me. If I didn't want to spend my time that way, I would have walked away a long fucking time ago (and, if you hadn't noticed, every other admin always has). It's a thankless job. If you do things right, 98% of the community will never even notice, and if you do things wrong (and, more often than not, even if you don't) a lot of people will shit on you as the worst thing to have ever happened to the game. So no, while it genuinely means a lot to me when people have something nice to say ( JT), I certainly don't ride in here on a "lil horse" every day looking for an ego boost.

To wrap up this little exercise in self-indulgence, I will tell you why I do bother: nothing has ever lived up to Tribes, and I think it would be a shame to watch that die to a self-destructive community, which prizes people who are self-centered, Machiavellian and nepotistic in the extreme (just so long as they are part of the clique). Just look at what lengths certain people will go to to win a (deliberately) meaningless, prizeless draft tournament.

Finally, before I am accused of being overly self-righteous here, let me just leave you with two tidbits. First, I have never censored any criticism directed at me or how I handle things. Most of you probably don't even remember the days when people got permabanned for talking shit to admins in here. And yes, I've read pretty much every proj post, and no, it's not a coincidence that thread's like mistcane's were left mysteriously unlocked when I banned him. Second, I have been accused of being biased for/against pretty much every higher tier player left in T2. After all of these years, I don't think anyone can make a clear cut or convincing case for "what side I am on". I am apparently butt buddies with everyone in T2, yet most of them hate me. I think that's a pretty decent track record, all things considered.

Originally posted by: --Gunther--
All we can do is pray that when the new game comes out we get a better admin that can keep us lil guys in the loop of what think are major issues.

On that note, I am rapidly approaching a point in my life where I probably won't be able to contribute the amount of time that I have in the past. In all likelihood, I will soon pull back from my current responsibilities considerably. I guess it's nice to know that that will make at least one person happy?


Celios is on it
TeamWarfare Competition Manager
Email: celios@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp
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Originally posted by: Celios
...


Game. Blouses.
celios
you should just ban the entire community
except me

i am king
(fu dare thief)
celios is obviously the biggest chump
Originally posted by: Celios
Originally posted by: Vaxemous
[...]

To answer your question as succinctly as possible: hexy got mad about the mossy oak situation, said he would smurf mistcane in, then smurfed mistcane in without realizing that mistcane isn't bright enough to use a proxy without fucking it up. Anyways, if you don't believe me, go ask him about the post he made in the forums after I banned him, reveling in the glory that is "hexycane".


Rofl, by "said he would smurf mistcane in" are you referring to the obvious joke posts where he says mystcane and hes gonna smurf him in as Folks? He was only saying that because of the whole Hawson thing.

Obviously you can't see a joke when its right infront of your face.

Not only that but you showed favoritism to Toys in the whole Hawson vs Mistcane smurfing shit. Why isn't Toys banned too? I don't even think either of them should be banned either way you look at it though. Theres no way of proving that he actually knew that mistcane was peterbilt or proving that Toys knew that Hawson was mossyoak. How the tournament actually went down kinda goes in favor of "hexy didn't know mistcane was peterbilt" rather than your theory of "hexy knew peterbilt was mistcane".


I mean fuck, might as well ban Fett as well, considering he ended up picking up kmz. Rofl.

My point is that, even though Mistcane is banned from comp and Hawson isn't, there is no way of proving that either Hexy or Toys knew either of them were smurfing as said names. Same situation. Same case. Different results.

Nazi admin time kgo

Favoritismkgo


And what post? The one that Josh made as twlmad2ez after you banned him as LIPKIAS? So Josh (mistcane) posting as twlmad2ez after you banned him for smurfing as lipkias makes him peterbilt? Logic, x2
He isn't even the first one that started saying hexycane, I'm pretty sure that was slush being a faggot in irc. Just because Josh isn't around on TWL anymore doesn't mean he isn't aware of the drama that occurs here. Logic, x3
Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/31/2011 5:51:45 AM
wat is wrong with favoritism
this is a free service

he can do wtf he wants
suck it newb
Originally posted by: -essence-
wat is wrong with favoritism
this is a free service

he can do wtf he wants
suck it newb



All Asian people are



Post edited by Vaxemous at 8/31/2011 5:45:51 AM
Hey Vax.



You are acting like a moron.
Originally posted by: ^Rayne
Hey Vax.



You are acting like a moron.