ip banning

So the "community" asked me to run a decent server, aka one without any cheating going on. Thing is, I can find the cheaters, but I can't ip ban anyone as of yet, and as you know banning the GUId is a waste of time.
I was told by Darkstrand, and I quote, "Kyrand and the boys do not want to show me how in fear that I will just ban them"
As if they didn't need a little banning once and while. I get complaints in my inbox daily about them.
The person who wrote tribesnext tried to help, but nothing worked, and Branzone tried to help.
My intent is to ban those who cheat, and tk, when they deserve it, but I need the flexibility to unban them when I feel to give them another chance. I think a few people need to put their money where their mouth is and help me figure this thing out. If I don't figure it out soon enough, I will just have Branzone ban those players at the machine level and be done with it. That is the other option they gave me. It will be a permanent ban, because I don't have time for this BS. Once your gone, you are gone for good.
P.S. everyone is tired of the team stacking too.

as long as the server is populated, you're doing better than most. just kick the obvious griefer of the day. death and taxes and complaints are the only sure things in life
Post edited by Thaen at 1/18/2011 1:16:31 PM

ds's crew are the only real teamstackers......he gets all his little cronies in and start spamming all these votes over and over again until they pass. Then him and all his little goonettes spam the chat with bullshit.

how come riverrat kicked me out of the server for no apparent reason?

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-Hybrid
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: t2hybrid@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

Darkstrand never told you that. In fact, I'm sure no one told you that, and you're just lying. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, seeing as how to this day you still lie about what was going on in my video.

If Thyth and Bran couldn't explain it in a way you could understand, I don't really know what more I could do. Maybe you could ask the people who run Goon Haven; they don't seem to have any trouble IP-range-banning cheaters (like you).

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Originally posted by: -Hybrid
how come riverrat kicked me out of the server for no apparent reason?

I would imagine because you are on DS's roster. Just a shot in the dark.

Bant: http://t2stats.m-parsons.com/blacklist.php

Originally posted by: -Hybrid
how come riverrat kicked me out of the server for no apparent reason?

riverrat hasn't played in a long time.

Originally posted by: Kryand
Darkstrand never told you that. In fact, I'm sure no one told you that, and you're just lying. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, seeing as how to this day you still lie about what was going on in my video.

Ok, and if I prove he said that to me?
I may be a lot of things Kyrand, but I am not a liar, that is something children like you do. And nice cover up avoiding the truth, and the question. I am sure you know how to ip ban people.

And I asked goon's administrator 8 months ago. I got no help from them. Even though I've always had an active interest in banning cheaters, such as yourself, I've gotten no help, wonder why.....

Yeah, I do know how to IP range ban people. That's not the point. The point is you were already told how to do it and apparently you still couldn't figure it out. So why would that change just because someone else tries to tell you?

Secondly, I have my own Arena server, so there's not really any motivation for me to show someone else how to run one. My server has an issue that needs to be worked out, so finding a fix for that is a lot higher on my list than fixing your server. And once mine is fixed, if people want to play on a decent server, they should just play on mine instead of yours, so again, fixing yours is of no concern to me.

Thirdly, you banning people who don't deserve it is a valid concern. You've proven time and again that you have absolutely no clue how to spot a cheater, so why the hell would anyone want to give you the ability to ban people who you think are cheating? I estimate probably 50% of the people you would ban would be innocent. Hell, look at Hybrid. I was on Vent with him when you banned him for headshotting you too many times and could hear the whole thing play out.

But overall, I think the primary reason no one is interested in helping you is the simply hypocrisy of it. We all know you won't ban yourself, so what's the point of you trying to ban all the other cheaters?

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Originally posted by: riVeRraT

Originally posted by: Kryand
Darkstrand never told you that. In fact, I'm sure no one told you that, and you're just lying. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, seeing as how to this day you still lie about what was going on in my video.

Ok, and if I prove he said that to me?
I may be a lot of things Kyrand, but I am not a liar, that is something children like you do. And nice cover up avoiding the truth, and the question. I am sure you know how to ip ban people.

And I asked goon's administrator 8 months ago. I got no help from them. Even though I've always had an active interest in banning cheaters, such as yourself, I've gotten no help, wonder why.....

rof. What I asked was: As a retard cheater who hates losing do you really think you can handle the responsibility of IP banning cheaters? I pointed out that it was more likely you'd ban completely legit players like hybrid for owning you than crappy cheaters like acid. I then told you to talk to kryand on irc if you were really that serious about improving your server.

Let's face it riverrat nobody respects you so nobody thinks you're going to handle new responsibilities very well. You've constantly shown an unfair bias against people who are better than you at arena. You've been a cheater and a shitty server admin for a long time. Why would that change?

Originally posted by: DarkOasis
ds's crew are the only real teamstackers......he gets all his little cronies in and start spamming all these votes over and over again until they pass. Then him and all his little goonettes spam the chat with bullshit.

darkoasis I think you'd enjoy arena a lot more if you stopped pretending that you were a good player and stopped trying to tell yourself you were a good player. You're a really bad player and as soon as you can acknowledge that to yourself you'll start enjoying getting beaten in arena (and improving) more.
Post edited by Darkstrand at 1/18/2011 7:33:40 PM

Originally posted by: -Hybrid
how come riverrat kicked me out of the server for no apparent reason?

cuz u ch33t

Originally posted by: C53421

Originally posted by: -Hybrid
how come riverrat kicked me out of the server for no apparent reason?

cuz u [strike]ch33t[/strike]communicate

.

This reminds me of gojita asking me to join up and rape ds and kryand. The idea still bores me. How does it feel to realize a capper has better "fundamentals" than you?

More importantly, I didn't lie, as you found out Kyrand. What was told to me by Thyth did not work. Not on an arena server running 1.1 and EVO mod, or a completely fresh install base server.

If I banned hybrid for too many Hs, and he was legit, then I apologize. I very rarely ban anyone, as I don't believe in banning people, and constantly stick up for DS, and Tarzul in complaint emails to me almost daily. But if DS and tarzul, and you for that matter are going to come in and just ruin games by vote kicking people, and spam chat BS then yea you deserve to be kicked.

No-one showed me how to range ban either, I was told to range ban, I would have to make 255 entries, that is not range banning.

Once again you are just covering up your own Bs with accusing me of BS. I don't cheat, get over it. I was just actually taking your advice and trying to run a good server, but apparently, you are full of shit.

DS, that is not what you said, I recorded that demo, would you like to change it to what you really said before I post it? you are just so hell bent on being an asshole.

Also, people need to stop smurfing if they don't want to get banned. The second someone comes in, and I don't know them from a hole in the wall and they start coming around corners aiming at me, and HS me 20 times a map, you will get banned. I pretty much know who can do it legit, and who can't. So Hybrid, if you were smurfing, you can expect that. I don't have access to the smurf checker, all I have is my own, and I don't feel like checking it everytime someone comes in and starts rattling off HS's and popping up behind corners aiming at my head.

Let's also not forget that you continually lie about having "evidence" against everyone in our group and could have the FBI come for us if you chose to.

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Originally posted by: Kryand
Let's also not forget that you continually lie about having "evidence" against everyone in our group and could have the FBI come for us if you chose to.

What does that have to do with this thread? More diversions?
If you back pedal on a free wheeling bicycle, you don't go anywhere

I already told you I'm not going to help you with your server and gave three perfectly valid reasons why. Deal with it you lying cheater.

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In other words, you don't mean what you say. Shall I post the screen shots of what DS said to me?

It's so obvious what you are doing. So you have no real concerns about cheaters, only to bother "certain" people. It's been like that from day one with you, and you do it to many people in this game. If you were truly a man of integrity, you would help me out, and ban all cheaters, friends or not. But what we have here is just you full of shit, which I have been saying all along. The truth shall prevail, and it has. I can keep going too, shall I? Next is the knock on your door by the authorities, idiot.

You don't deserve to be involved in this game.

this thread is gay, ban DS already.. obviously he is a cheater.
Post edited by _slush at 1/19/2011 8:55:26 PM

So I read this thread twice and I'm a little confused but I'll try to help myself out here in case anyone else is confused too ok?? riVeRraT, you would have banned me that day because:

1. I hit one too many head shots on you.

2. You didn't recognize my smurf name even though you have never seen me play on my regular name (which would look like a smurf to you regardless) and you’re clearly the only one allowed to smurf.

3. You know how to catch cheaters.

All of these reasons are based solely on your posts in this thread.

So basically when I read your first two sentences in this thread and then look over at my own post that I'm typing now, I can only come to one conclusion. You're an idiot and you have no clue about what you're doing.

The reasons you mentioned are very stupid because it all rests completely on your lack of knowledge of the game. While it is your server and you can run it however you wish I highly doubt people are going to support you banning players when they see what’s really going on. You need something to work with pal, so mebbe next time you should try to use yourself an example on what to look for in a cheater.

And as for the rest of this thread, you want to ip ban players that cheat while at the same time apologizing for being wrong about me (like it doesn’t put a wrench in your “I can find the cheaters” strategy). I get it, good joke d00d.

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-Hybrid
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: t2hybrid@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

lol hybrid u reatard. OBVIOUSLY he caught u cheating, that is why he removed u from the server. i'd really like to see the evidence that riverrat got to justly remove ur cheating ass though. OBVIOUSLY he didn't just take you out due to a mere hit and miss on a smurf. he said it already earlier in the thread:

Originally posted by: riVeRraT
So the "community" asked me to run a decent server, aka one without any cheating going on. Thing is, I can find the cheaters, but I can't ip ban anyone as of yet, and as you know banning the GUId is a waste of time.

SO THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD SUPPORT HIM GETTING HELP WITH IP BANNING. HE CAN CATCH CHEATERS 2 EZ AND BAN THEM.

hybrolly is it a lot of work to continue the facade that there are two of you?

First of hybrid, nothing you said makes any sense whatsoever.

Secondly, you weren't banned, you were kicked for obvious reasons. A 10 second kick at that. Both bans and kicks are set to 10 seconds. I don't kick or ban people for just HS, that would be stupid.

Third, no one will get ip banned from my server unless evidence is shown to me in a demo, then I will post it here on TWL for everyone to examine, then, and only then will I ip ban someone. As I have stated many times before, and as the welcome screen says when you join my server. If you had read it, you wouldn't be saying all this stupid shit.

It's amazing to me the stupid lies, and what you idiots try and turn this into.

And why are you getting so defensive?

I MEAN REALLY!

Hey riverrat I was wonder if there was something I could say to make you mad enough to bring all your "evidence" to light, because you seem pretty mad and yet still you have produced nothing. So, if there's something that I could say to rage you that much, could you please pretend that I just said it. Thanks!

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Avoiding the issues again Kyrand?

Oh and for the record:
By riv3rrat at 2011-01-19

AND:



A bird in the hand is clearly, clearly worth two in the bush
By riv3rrat at 2011-01-19

We will just have to say that you guys like to play with cheaters.

Originally posted by: riVeRraT

Secondly, you weren't banned, you were kicked for obvious reasons. A 10 second kick at that. Both bans and kicks are set to 10 seconds. I don't kick or ban people for just HS, that would be stupid.

Serious question, how did you pack so much dumb into this explanation? Obvious reasons? Ok pal, tell me the "obvious reasons" you kicked me for so I can use the same reasons in goon haven! I already listed the reasons that you would kick or ban players for so why are you attempting to change them? I told you that I took those reasons from your posts in this thread…

Originally posted by: riVeRraT

Third, no one will get ip banned from my server unless evidence is shown to me in a demo, then I will post it here on TWL for everyone to examine, then, and only then will I ip ban someone. As I have stated many times before, and as the welcome screen says when you join my server. If you had read it, you wouldn't be saying all this stupid shit.

Uhh yeah, like all the other threads where no one reaches a conclusion on players that you want banned from your server, you still let twl banned cheaters frequent your server. Your bullshit is really cute and adorable.

Originally posted by: riVeRraT
And why are you getting so defensive?
I MEAN REALLY!

There is just something strangely funny about the way you handle just about everything (from what I've seen). I dunno, I'm probably coming off as defensive to you just because you're trying to act like you aren't making very poor decisions so I thought it would be a good idea to point out a lot of flaws. The fact you can't seem to understand that you have no idea what you're doing makes me wonder just how badly you want to nazi your server.

Why don't you start banning players that are already banned from TWL before you spew some more jokes about wanting to run a decent server.

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-Hybrid
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: t2hybrid@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

Originally posted by: riVeRraT

I was told by Darkstrand, and I quote, "Kyrand and the boys do not want to show me how in fear that I will just ban them"

Originally posted by: Darkstrand
What I asked was: As a retard cheater who hates losing do you really think you can handle the responsibility of IP banning cheaters? I pointed out that it was more likely you'd ban completely legit players like hybrid for owning you than crappy cheaters like acid. I then told you to talk to kryand on irc if you were really that serious about improving your server.

Now who do you think paraphrased that better? (rof at you saying "and I quote")
Post edited by Darkstrand at 1/20/2011 1:23:23 AM

hk told me i was hitting to many clutch hs....and that i was a cheater....

Hey riverrat you seem like a good guy who is trying to do the right thing. i hope u figure out how to ip ban people so the cheaters can all get banned and we can hav efun again. thanks.

What issues are you even talking about?

You being unable to run a decent server without someone else doing everything for you: CLOSED.
You having no idea how to spot cheaters: CLOSED.
You being a cheater: CLOSED.
You lying about quoting someone when you were in fact twisting their words: CLOSED.
You having piles of evidence against us, including info that would bring the FBI to our doorstep: OPEN.

By that score card, you're the only one avoiding any issues.

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I guess because you said it, it must be true. Thanks for the help.

Originally posted by: Darkstrand

Originally posted by: riVeRraT

I was told by Darkstrand, and I quote, "Kyrand and the boys do not want to show me how in fear that I will just ban them"

Originally posted by: Darkstrand
What I asked was: As a retard cheater who hates losing do you really think you can handle the responsibility of IP banning cheaters? I pointed out that it was more likely you'd ban completely legit players like hybrid for owning you than crappy cheaters like acid. I then told you to talk to kryand on irc if you were really that serious about improving your server.

Now who do you think paraphrased that better? (rof at you saying "and I quote")

Obviously I did because I have never kicked you or Tarzul or Kyrand before, and as I stated in our conversation, I stuck up for you on one of the videos that was posted here on TWL. I even went as far as to make Tarzul an admin so you guys could have matches on our server. You should have never even said what you said to me, idk maybe you just got a guilty conscience?

What did I get in return? I got people complaining to me everyday about Tarzul unbanning shit and going against the admin rules. I got demos of you cheating on my server. I got complaints that even though the map had changed, somehow you and Tarzul still had cg when it was banned the map before, and bragged about it. I got continually harassed and called a cheater when it just wasn't true. You guys pretty much got me banned from goons for no dam reason, and I don't even dare to try and join a team here because of all the shit you will start. gg's

I tried to be nice to your group, and you guys have been nothing but assholes to me since day one I met you. It's not just me either but at least half of the tribes community. You come in our server and spam chat BS, teamstack, abuse admin, and cheat. Then get all your silly little friends to post shit on TWL about me that just isn't true.

You make complaints about the server, and I try to follow through on it, then I get no help from you or Kyrand. All I get are smurfs who come in our server and fuck games up and talk shit to the decent people that play there.

Now tell me, who paraphrased it better?

Originally posted by: -Hybrid


Why don't you start banning players that are already banned from TWL before you spew some more jokes about wanting to run a decent server.

Well fucking duh, that is what this thread is about. How am I supposed to ban players from my server when I don't have the resources to do it? In order to truly ban people, I need to be able to ip ban, and have access to the smurf checker on chaingunned.org which I do not. You are a hypocrite too. Judging by the amount of time you are putting into this I would say you were cheating.

Originally posted by: riVeRraT
Well fucking duh, that is what this thread is about. How am I supposed to ban players from my server when I don't have the resources to do it? In order to truly ban people, I need to be able to ip ban, and have access to the smurf checker on chaingunned.org which I do not.

That’s not fair, my post made sense so how come yours doesn’t? You really just wanted to make some kind of shit reply to me on purpose?? Listen pal, if you had that kind of time to be making horrible posts where you somehow make yourself look worse when no one thought it was possible then maybe instead of posting you could have used your time better by sending darkstrand and kryand to jail finding cheaters and then ip banning sending them to jail.

Oh yeah, how come you didn't answer my serious question even when I explained that it was serious? Well, maybe you missed it or you didn't read my post. I wanted to know what the "obvious reasons" were that got me kicked.

Anyway, twl banned players are on your server daily. Not only this but they are fully acknowledging who they are to everyone and nothing is being done. You're going on and on about ip banning like it's some kind of permanent solution. What, are you going to do range bans too?

Well, I guess when you're so lazy that you can't even ban players that are telling you that they are banned players (seriously, why can't you extend the ban time and just ban them as you see them and have your trusted admins do the same if you care that much? if you weren't such a shady person you would obviously have much better options and people willing to help you though), I can see how you would think that ip bans will somehow make your server decent. Even if it's actually a hassle having to white list players that are within a range ban. Even if ip bans don't make it any less inconvenient for legit players that you end up wrongfully banning (no, don’t say you’re going to ip ban only “proven cheaters” from the threads you make on twl. c’mon now d00d don’t make this 2ez ). Even if you don't know your own server rules. Even if a lot of server owners use ip bans without many problems the majority of players still agree and believe you will fuck it up and abuse it. Even if you don't understand that you kicking me for “obvious reasons” (because I sniped you too much, heh) proves that you can't find cheaters. Even if my previous sentences can all be summed up quite nicely in my next sentence. Even if the server owner is a big part of the problem as to why the server will not be decent.

Basically a lot of people are probably thinking this,

Yeah, ip bans are helpful but there’s nothing good that will come out of it if you’re the one handling it. I mean, you’re a self admitted cheater. Like…wth is wrong with you.

Including the sad smiley.

Anyway d00d, if I had all the problems you have (ie: acid and slutty perfection basically joining the server because u allow them to play there but you can just tell branzone to ban them for you because it’s apparently too hard for you but you don’t want to do that because what if you want to give them a second chance?? and what if something happens, like, what if they get banned?? and what about the time screenshots were taken of u joking around with ur pal slutty perfection about condoning cheats on ur server?? and what about that huge problem of u probably cheating while u play??) I'd probably be shit posting in a very shitty thread and hopefully be turning it into a shit storm very much like what you're doing now. owait, i alrdy am lmao!!!

Originally posted by: riVeRraT
You are a hypocrite too. Judging by the amount of time you are putting into this I would say you were cheating.

ya, this is a really good example of how you’re supposed to find cheaters.

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-Hybrid
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: t2hybrid@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

Basically everything you said is untrue, or utter non-sense. It does not warrant a reply. Its all ben gone over already. And how would I remember the specifics of when I banned you when I don't even know who the hell you are.........smurf.

so this thread got way to wordy.. more pics and short witty comebacks plz