Please reference any questions about the Auto-MBL software here. This shall be the only thread for this.
Originally posted by: cA*BlueVenom
Ok first off, I won't connect any of my shit to auto MBL. I read the whole thing and figured it is pretty much bs. And I knew mav would do something about bs this season. There are mutiple reasons I won't use MBL. One for a reason is information is being tossed from my hard drive to the internet. Personal information and serial code of your hardrive is being tossed. SID wants to ban me as it is and with my hardrive ID, they could easily banning me using this new procedure. Number 2 reason, having full acess to your server and files allows a corrupted admin like mav to steal your rcon and fuck with you. I know my server company would not want this @ all because it is connected to my server from there database(dedicate servers) This is way to personal and is a horrible Idea. Number 3. A admin could look @ my cfg anytime. MY CFG is personal and i personaly made it for myself and my clans advantage. There are no cheats in it what so ever. MAV has acess to everything and I don't want my cfg being used by other people other than myself.
PBWEB is connected to one database to another. Sending multiple files from a server to a database causes lag and personal ID. If a hacker wanted to fuck with punkbusted.com they could easily do it. If they got into the site, they would have HARDRIVE ID and IP and even a pw if your pc is pw protected. Many leagues dont use this at all. I don't want anything to do with this what so ever. I know when mav was signed as an admin he would do some bs IDEA like this.
If u guys do this, there is no need for my server. I know my server wont allow any kind of these scripts added to my ftp, server. SO WTF
Originally posted by: Mav{WC}
Lets start here.
1. Read carefully everything. Even the punksbusted site. They answer almost every question here.
2.As for me doing something about BS, one I support the idea, didn't intial bring it up thou. 2. If BS is cheaters, then for sure we have to keep them out.
3. One for a reason is information is being tossed from my hard drive to the internet. Personal information and serial code of your hardrive is being tossed - You run the server from your pc, nice interent. As for the scan by MD5, it only scans game files, can't go anywhere else.
4.SID wants to ban me as it is and with my hardrive ID, they could easily banning me using this new procedure - Wrong type of scan, wrong people who can ban you using it, and hardware GUIDs are not completly a reality yet.
5. Teamwarfare or any admin using the AMBL client have no access to your server, other then your server ip and port number. You give that anyways when we join your server.
6. AS for your .cfg being looked at. Again no one has access to any of your server files, except you. If someone gains access YOU have given them the information to do so, this software has no ability to do it.
BV, please reading my directions give you only a brief glimpse of how the Auto-MBL system works. It is in place to stop cheaters, not get anything from you. If you cheat or have been caught cheating this will be your enemy. If your a server admin, this is your friend.
Originally posted by: [PoD] Hitman Arias
Good. Finally, something that can be done automatically instead of uploading everytime someone gets banned somewhere!
Also, what effect will this have on a server if we are playing a match and its it updating? Will it lag the server at all? I havent read all teh documentation on this, so looking for quick answers.
Have there been any issues where Auto-MBL locks up and the server crashes?
Originally posted by: cA*BlueVenom
2. Auto-MBL connect to a server using ftp settings, just as if you were connecting through Internet Explorer or Cute FTP or any other ftp software
Exactly my point. I ran this before on my server in a different game. You can actualy see the log files. It usualy detects your game files only. And don't get me wrong. By doing this, punkbusted has full acess to all your shit. Im not afraid of anything. I know they get over a million file logs a day, but my serial ID on my hardrive is being tossed. I don't feel to comfortable with that.
Have a admin please talk to me on mIRC. PM me
Originally posted by: |Annihilator|
I just want to make it clear that neither TeamWarfare nor SID are running this service. This is complety operated by http://www.punksbusted.com. The only information being passed back and forth are banlists and md5tool check both of which reside on the game server not the client intermediary. If you are still worried about having your pc in the loop (it basically just transfers files between the game server than punksbusted's server) you can always just setup Auto-MBL to run directly on your game server. This is a service used by many people across many games. No one can look at you cfg, no one can see your rcon (which you don't even have to enter, it's simply a convience option). This is simply a tool that will reduce the number of hackers playing in our matches.
Originally posted by: AusBlokeeOriginally posted by: |Annihilator|
I just want to make it clear that neither TeamWarfare nor SID are running this service. This is complety operated by http://www.punksbusted.com. The only information being passed back and forth are banlists and md5tool check both of which reside on the game server not the client intermediary. If you are still worried about having your pc in the loop (it basically just transfers files between the game server than punksbusted's server) you can always just setup Auto-MBL to run directly on your game server. This is a service used by many people across many games. No one can look at you cfg, no one can see your rcon (which you don't even have to enter, it's simply a convience option). This is simply a tool that will reduce the number of hackers playing in our matches.
Since I have a curious mind, I have a few questions:
1) You say TWL isnt using this software.. however are you requiring that all servers run it? Or is it something that auto runs because of PB?
2) How many hackers has PB actually caught in its time? It seems to me that in all the time I've been in gaming most of all that they have done is all smoke and mirrors. I've yet to see them come out with any factual evidence or numbers supporting all the hassle that they've put this game through and every other game.
3) I dunno about you.. but dont most ppl have FTP access turned off to their boxes? It seems extraodinary to have to have it on (even to a specific directory), in order to just play a game.
Aus
Originally posted by: HoVa_01
Well im guessing you can count our server's out of this as well. Our server's are donated to us from a friend that runs them. So its up to him whether or not to do it. Also another server is PreY's. So they can decide what they want to do.
Originally posted by: cA*BlueVenom
mav, your attempt along with TWL admins to try and do this won't work. Simply because server companys don't feel comfortable giving ftp access to people.
Being that said, you will turn a lot of clans away because of this. That simple man=/
Originally posted by: cA*BlueVenom
mav, your attempt along with TWL admins to try and do this won't work. Simply because server companys don't feel comfortable giving ftp access to people.
Being that said, you will turn a lot of clans away because of this. That simple man=/
Originally posted by: TheRealStryder
Also, i know for a fact, that... I shall not be giving a password to anyone i know within that box, due to the fact that i stated earlier, about it being at a well known DSL service office.
This is a valid concern. My understanding was that all teh TWL Admins needed was teh Clan ID from Punksbusted and the password that you gave to Punksbusted. IF its the password to teh FTP, we need to really consider this concern. If its the password to teh FTP, there is no way this is going to be handed out.This is a very understandable security concern. But again, if its just teh Punksbusted Clan ID and password, I have no problem with that.