Add weapons to gungame

I understand how adding the AWP and autosnipers would unbalance the game. But why don't we have all the pistols and the autoshotgun?

Originally posted by: S1GR
I understand how adding the AWP and autosnipers would unbalance the game. But why don't we have all the pistols and the autoshotgun?

no idea about pistols or autoshotty. They have been missing for some, likely dumb, reason since the beginning of the ladder. Snipers would be fine if people didn't trade guns, but since they do, snipers are bad on the larger maps.

Ok, when we originally created the ladder we decided to pick a certain number of gun(s) that would be used, the concern was having matches that were too long to complete. Yes, before you state it camping has proven to cause matches to be long and drawn out, therefore leading to complaint(s). With that said if there is support for adding more weapon(s) to the weapon list I do not see any problem(s) with doing so.

Originally posted by: PrinceofHonor
Ok, when we originally created the ladder we decided to pick a certain number of gun(s) that would be used, the concern was having matches that were too long to complete. Yes, before you state it camping has proven to cause matches to be long and drawn out, therefore leading to complaint(s). With that said if there is support for adding more weapon(s) to the weapon list I do not see any problem(s) with doing so.

I don't think adding the rest of the pistols and the autoshotty is a bad idea. It would lengthen matches by only a minute or two. AWP/Autosnipers are a bad idea though. Make a vote?

Why add them? I mean is there any reason you want them added other than they are not there at this time?

Also I would like to add that autoshotty is by far the worst gun in the game(IMO of course).

Originally posted by: mtnduman
Why add them? I mean is there any reason you want them added other than they are not there at this time?

Also I would like to add that autoshotty is by far the worst gun in the game(IMO of course).

Why not?

autosniper is worse than autoshotty

Originally posted by: phidan
Why not?

autosniper is worse than autoshotty

/agree

I wouldn't mind having to squeeze through a few more pistols and the autoshitty.

It just seems like it goes from pistols to submachine guns too quickly. It'd be nice to add a couple more levels buffer in the beginning. It's not going to make too much of a difference in the end, so it mainly comes down to personal preference. And I would like to see as many of the guns as possible, as long as adding them doesn't unbalance everything. Hopefully it makes it to a vote, it seems like some other people want it as well.

S1GR I wasn't really disagreeing with you so much as wondering why. I would probly end up voting for adding pistols.

Holy shit I never even noticed they (pistols and autoshotty) were missing.

I say add the pistols but not the autoshotty

We are looking into this and will have an answer shortly

I'd suggest just adding just the p228 for that is an awesome gun and very easy kill, the autoshotty i can understand that will take alittle longer.
Post edited by Drunk Chicken at 7/10/2009 9:55:24 AM

im for the p228 and the autoshotty but the ump can go to hell lol

every weapon, maybe even the awp or/and auto-sniper could be an interesting change- tmp>awp

even with the additional guns it will still be less long than reg scrims,

Originally posted by: MapleJugz
even with the additional guns it will still be less long than reg scrims,

Some matches have gone on for well over an hour. I have been in a few myself.

Originally posted by: Sick Shot
Some matches have gone on for well over an hour. I have been in a few myself.

Sick, you know as well as I do that long matches aren't because of the weapons that are in the game...

Update?

We plan on adding them. Right now our main goal is to get some new admins on board so we can take care of the ladders properly

Just curious, which guns are being thought about? All or just a few?
Post edited by mtnduman at 8/21/2009 4:05:32 PM

UMP

I'm a fan of adding the ump, autoshotty and maybe 1 pistol, but no more than 1 pistol. I speak on behalf of several people.

There's only one more pistol you can add...

he doesnt speak on behalf of myself. I think the autoshotty is just stupid to add if we already have the pump. I prefer the pump over the auto anyways.

Adding the auto will just make it feel a little more like a pub server... its a useless gun.

And, why add the one other pistol? p2278 (i know i got that wrong, please correct me, its the compact or wtv) is basically the 5-7 but with less bullets...

Not that it matters for me anymore, but the original intention was to add all weapons besides ones that would unbalance the current gameplay. You can get kills with all weapons fairly easily, so I don't understand why people would be arguing over certain weapons. It came with the game, use it. But adding awp and autosnipers would change the dynamic of the game when weapon switching, and make the game less fun overall. Of course this is only speculation too, no one's really tried it, but that's a different battle and people always cry about awps regardless.

ANDDDDDDD

A lot of bades play gungame for the sole reason they QQ about the AWP. So if the AWP were to be added, I can promise a lot of people would leave.

The way I see the awp is that if your team uses three guns and one player uses the awp it could be good and bad. There's many people that just can't scope well and when being pushed by three to five people picking the right one would be hard. That being said teams with good scopes would most likely dominate(especially on bigger open maps like snow).

My opinion is add awp, last pistol. I hate auto because it seems far to random(more luck than skill based) when you look at spray patterns. Again just IMO.

People WILL bitch about the awp. With the AWP, teams will get their nades in 3 rounds.

I don't really understand what is you mean by the nade part. As for awp and people bitching you are right. This is why awp will most likely ever see that ladder because it will not pass a vote to add it.

Shoot the foot...

The AWP will destroy the ladder. Nuff said.

It won't completely destroy it. It will just change the way it is played. Some teams will drop because they're bitches.

LOL...imagine adding flashbangs.My goodness.

Imagine adding a flashbang level where you have to shoot them down to 1 hp and no armor then hit them with the flash...

Hmmmm......

LOL at flashbang part.

I made a post in the following thread:

/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=269&threadid=443050

It covers things that we are going to be doing in a bit of detail, including the adding of new weapons.